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Feral77
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 Posted: 07-Apr-2002 06:46 Post subject: Bear Paw |
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Bear Paw
Mass: 20 tons
Chassis: Alshain Class 92b
Power Plant: Kagoshima 200 XL
Cruising Speed: 108.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 162.0 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Choutaka Armorscale
Armament: 1
Unknown
Manufacturer(s): 1
Alshain Weapons
Communications System: CommuTech Multi-Channel 10
Targeting & Tracking System: Cat's Eyes 5
Overview: 7
Primary Variant:Anti Infantry/Harrasser/Training
A:Urban Recon/Training Mech
B:Long Range Recon/Harrasser/Training Mech
C:Recon/Training Mech
D:Training Mech
E:Urban Recon
F:Recon
Type: Bear Paw
Technology Base: Clan Omni Custom
Tonnage: 20
Equipment Mass
Internal Structure: 2.0
Engine: 200 XL 4.5
Walking MP: 10
Running MP: 15 [20]
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 10 [20] 0
Gyro: 2
Cockpit: 3
Armor Factor: 56 3.5
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 6
Center Torso: 6 8
Center Torso (Rear): 2
R/L Torso: 5 6
R/L Torso (Rear): 2
R/L Arm: 4 6
R/L Leg: 4 6
Fixed Configuration
BV : 240 Cost : 3491501
Weapons and Ammo Location Critical Heat Mass
MASC CT 1 0 1.0
*** HS RT1 RT1
Primary Configuration
BV : 763 Cost : 3751001
Weapons and Ammo Location Critical Heat Mass
Machine Gun LT 1 0 0.3
Machine Gun LT 1 0 0.3
@Machine Gun (100) LT 1 0 0.5
ER Medium Laser CT 1 5 1.0
ER Small Laser RT 1 2 0.5
ER Small Laser RT 1 2 0.5
Targeting Computer RT 1 0 1.0
Alternate Configuration A
BV : 743 Cost : 3761501
Weapons and Ammo Location Critical Heat Mass
SRM-2 (OS) RT 1 2 1.0
Streak SRM-2 CT 1 2 1.0
ER Medium Laser LT 1 5 1.0
ER Medium Laser RTR 1 5 1.0
Alternate Configuration B
BV : 882 Cost : 3712751
Weapons and Ammo Location Critical Heat Mass
ER Small Laser LT 1 2 0.5
ER Small Laser LT 1 2 0.5
ER Small Laser RT 1 2 0.5
ER Medium Laser CT 1 5 1.0
ER Small Laser RTR 1 2 0.5
ER Small Laser RT 1 2 0.5
ER Small Laser LTR 1 2 0.5
Alternate Configuration C
BV : 441 Cost : 3749501
Weapons and Ammo Location Critical Heat Mass
LRM-5 CTR 1 2 1.0
@Thunder LRM-5 (24) LT 1 0 1.0
Small Pulse Laser LT 1 2 1.0
Small Pulse Laser RT 1 2 1.0
Alternate Configuration D
BV : 508 Cost : 3648251
Weapons and Ammo Location Critical Heat Mass
Target Acquisition Gear CT 1 0 1.0
Small Pulse Laser LFL 1 2 1.0
Small Pulse Laser RRL 1 2 1.0
ER Small Laser LRL 1 2 0.5
ER Small Laser RFL 1 2 0.5
Alternate Configuration E
BV : 608 Cost : 3816251
Weapons and Ammo Location Critical Heat Mass
Streak SRM-4 CT 1 3 2.0
@Streak SRM-4 (25) RT 1 0 1.0
ER Small Laser RT 1 2 0.5
ER Small Laser LT 1 2 0.5
Alternate Configuration F
BV : 813 Cost : 3649001
Weapons and Ammo Location Critical Heat Mass
Medium Pulse Laser CT 1 4 2.0
ER Small Laser RT 1 2 0.5
ER Small Laser RT 1 2 0.5
ER Small Laser LT 1 2 0.5
ER Small Laser LT 1 2 0.5
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Ares
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| Posted: 07-Apr-2002 12:09 Post subject: Bear Paw |
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This thing, IMO, is just cannon fodder. It has MASC and an XL engine. It dosen't really have any capabilities that can't be matched by a higher tonnage mech that costs less, mounts more armor and has more survivability, and has a much better weapons suite.
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ICER
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| Posted: 07-Apr-2002 15:27 Post subject: Bear Paw |
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Bear Paw? Isn't that somekind of dounut? 
I have to agree with Ares on this. But then, 20 tonners are not easy too design. Pick a task for it. and go with that thought. sometimes a certain task needs a taylored mech. And 20s (Most lights really) are for spoting or recon.
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Feral77
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| Posted: 07-Apr-2002 15:30 Post subject: Bear Paw |
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Its a training mech did you not read the whole thing?
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Feral77
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| Posted: 07-Apr-2002 15:30 Post subject: Bear Paw |
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Overview: 7
Primary Variant:Anti Infantry/Harrasser/Training
A:Urban Recon/Training Mech
B:Long Range Recon/Harrasser/Training Mech
C:Recon/Training Mech
D:Training Mech
E:Urban Recon
F:Recon
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ICER
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| Posted: 07-Apr-2002 16:04 Post subject: Bear Paw |
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On 2002-04-07 15:30, Feral77 wrote:
Its a training mech did you not read the whole thing?
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Read? There was something to read?
OOH!! That 
Sorry. Did not get that part. In that case, it would make a good training mech.
The the Prime is not bad suited for the task.
But I have a 35 tonner with the same speed but more armor.
(And to be to technical, The clans do not make mechs for training, They use mechs that are no longer battle worthy and would spend to many production points to get it worthy. So they would get it to where it could stand and walk. Then give it a training sibko to learn the basics)
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| Posted: 07-Apr-2002 18:52 Post subject: Bear Paw |
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A training mech would not have an XL. They cost too much to mass produce, which is what you'd need to do for viable training mechs.
I'd also bet that they wouldn't waste an omni on a training mission either...
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| Posted: 07-Apr-2002 18:58 Post subject: Bear Paw |
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On 2002-04-07 18:52, chihawk wrote:
A training mech would not have an XL. They cost too much to mass produce, which is what you'd need to do for viable training mechs.
I'd also bet that they wouldn't waste an omni on a training mission either...
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You are correct. They would not make this a training mech
I really need to start reading what I post
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Talen
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| Posted: 07-Apr-2002 19:13 Post subject: Bear Paw |
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You know...i dont think the Clans wrry too much about the building of XL engines. To the Clans the XL is just another mass produced part. But, i doubt they'd slap it up in a trainer. They'd have old std. engines they load intot he training 'mechs cause no matter how many front line pieces of equipment you have, its never enough...
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Feral77
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| Posted: 07-Apr-2002 23:16 Post subject: Bear Paw |
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Why dont yall look at the other designs that I posted and no one has replied on!!!
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| Posted: 08-Apr-2002 00:42 Post subject: Bear Paw |
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I can not speak for the reat of the board, and do not get me wrong. The are all decent designs. I feel that they just did not warrent a reply, That is all.
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Ares
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| Posted: 08-Apr-2002 15:38 Post subject: Bear Paw |
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Feral, what your problem is is that you posted WAY too much stuff in a short amount of time. People feel overwhelmed when they look at the designs, it makes them not want to look at any of them, just because there's so many of them! Posting a title would help too, cause maybe some people are only now concerned about attack mechs or whatever. Fluff is nice also, no one just wants to stare at a set of stats.
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Karagin
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| Posted: 11-Apr-2002 08:12 Post subject: Bear Paw |
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What does this one do that the Dasher or one of the other lights doesn't already do?
The idea is interesting, giving the GBs their own light Omni, but it really doesn't out do it's compitation IMHO.
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