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PostPosted: 03-Apr-2002 02:06    Post subject: Mage Knight Reply to topic Reply with quote

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On 2002-04-03 02:03, Karagin wrote:
You want hard evidence? Take MK, toss the normal pices, put mechs in there, use the bases of the normal pieces to do the damage etc...and play the game as you would MK...then tell me if I am not far off the mark...



That proves nothing, and you are simply repeating yourself--which I have already said that I will not accept as proof. I've already told you what I will accept as proof--now please either put up or shut up.

--Camille.

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PostPosted: 03-Apr-2002 02:16    Post subject: Mage Knight Reply to topic Reply with quote

I did put up...you won't listen, so how about this, you give the idea I presented a try, or for that matter anyone can do the same and then when the game does come out, we can come the two ideas...

They can't stray that far from MK and expect the same group to buy MW...so the point is vaild.



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PostPosted: 03-Apr-2002 02:22    Post subject: Mage Knight Reply to topic Reply with quote

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On 2002-04-03 02:16, Karagin wrote:
I did put up...



No Karagin, you did not. All you did was rephrase what you originally said (apparently in the hopes that I'd be too stupid to see right through it--a false hope if ever there was one) and ask me to perform an "experiment" whose outcome would ONLY support your assertions. It's called "stacking the deck", and anyone with half a braincell can see right through that.

I told you what I will accept as proof of your claims. If you refuse to provide this proof, then I will just go ahead and thank you now for showing me that your claims have no basis in fact whatsoever.

--Camille.


[ This Message was edited by: AcidQueen on 2002-04-03 02:23 ]
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PostPosted: 03-Apr-2002 02:23    Post subject: Mage Knight Reply to topic Reply with quote

If it supports my claim then what is your arguement again?



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PostPosted: 03-Apr-2002 02:23    Post subject: Mage Knight Reply to topic Reply with quote

Camille, my concern isn't based on game mechanics. It is based on marketing.

it is being marketed to that same niche that buys Mage Knight. The teen with disposible income who is buying a fad. It isn't being marketed to the diehard fans that have stuck with the game for years.

Remember, those of us that were loyal followers of BattleTech got Fanpro only after Weissman decided to make Clickytech. We are an afterthought.

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PostPosted: 03-Apr-2002 02:24    Post subject: Mage Knight Reply to topic Reply with quote

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Camille, my concern isn't based on game mechanics. It is based on marketing.



Thank you for dodging the question. I accept your surrender.

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Remember, those of us that were loyal followers of BattleTech got Fanpro only after Weissman decided to make Clickytech. We are an afterthought.



Proof? Thank you.

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PostPosted: 03-Apr-2002 02:25    Post subject: Mage Knight Reply to topic Reply with quote

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On 2002-04-03 02:23, Karagin wrote:
If it supports my claim then what is your arguement again?



My argument is unchanged--you have no proof to back up your wild claims, and therefore must resort to the "everything I say three times is true" defense.

Thank you Karagin, I accept your surrender.

--Camille.


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PostPosted: 03-Apr-2002 02:31    Post subject: Mage Knight Reply to topic Reply with quote

Once again you missed the forest because you can't see past the trees...

And again state if the testing of the idea I gave you supports what I said then what baes does your arguement against it have?

Same game, diffenet name new pices...

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PostPosted: 03-Apr-2002 02:33    Post subject: Mage Knight Reply to topic Reply with quote

Sweetie, I'm not surrendering, especially not to someone like you. Now go back to the beginning and point out where I bitch about game mechanics. Now I will admit that I did touch on that later, but that was never the crux of my arguement.

It is not being marketed to us, but to the MageKnight crowd. And you can call me a liar all you want, but you can't find proof otherwise.

And as far as us being an afterthought, how many months was it between WhizKids getting BattleTech and Weissman finally telling us anything, especially that BattleTech would live on in CBT? If I recall it was sometime after the announcement of ClickyTech before they decided what to do with old BattleTech. Something about Gencon and them still not having made a decision.

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PostPosted: 03-Apr-2002 02:33    Post subject: Mage Knight Reply to topic Reply with quote

Yes yes Karagin, and everything you say three times is true.

Whatever. Thank you, I accept your surrender.

--Camille.


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PostPosted: 03-Apr-2002 02:36    Post subject: Mage Knight Reply to topic Reply with quote

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On 2002-04-03 02:33, AcidQueen wrote:
Yes yes Karagin, and everything you say three times is true.

Whatever. Thank you, I accept your surrender.

--Camille.





Sorry my dear, I never offered you my surrender, so how about you stop with the word games, and actually try the suggestion out before you dismiss it out of hand...

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PostPosted: 03-Apr-2002 03:11    Post subject: Mage Knight Reply to topic Reply with quote

--seeing another heated debate turning into a possible flame war, vagabond takes to his blades--

--white n black jersy flashing, he blows his whistel-- break it up. you three take a bench.

--waving to chihawk-- i need 3 replacments on the ice coach.

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kool it. leave this thread, before mordel or chihawk clamp it shut.

you opinions are expressed, and over 6 or more posdts, nothing new was brought up.

so let others express your views as the inturrpet.

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PostPosted: 03-Apr-2002 04:11    Post subject: Mage Knight Reply to topic Reply with quote

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On 2002-04-03 03:11, Vagabond wrote:
--seeing another heated debate turning into a possible flame war, vagabond takes to his blades--



No need, Vagabond. I opted out of the discussion when it became pretty apparent to me that Cadet and Karagin were only interested in being agreed with.

BTW, could I interest you in a job as an NHL ref? We need to get SOMEBODY in there to replace Stephen Walkom and Kerry "Bob's Hair Queen" Fraser!

--Camille.

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PostPosted: 03-Apr-2002 08:17    Post subject: Mage Knight Reply to topic Reply with quote

Cadet, Karagin let me give you a little advise. I have yet to See/Meet anyone that could change Camille's mind once she made it up, with words only.

Just let it go.

Vagabond, is the box big enough????

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PostPosted: 03-Apr-2002 10:55    Post subject: Mage Knight Reply to topic Reply with quote

Camille, just stop with the "I accept your surrender" and the "holier than thou" attitude. Then, maybe, they'd stop wishing you'd step on a ******* land mind and we can get something productive out of this. Hell, you just want to win the argument along with Cadet and Kerrigan to prove that "I'm better". Nobody is required to show proof to hold their opinions. You are entitled to your opinion, everyone is. It doesn't matter if someone's opinion isn't good enough for someone else. However, nobody can FORCE an opinion onto another, they can only PERSUADE them. Now, apparently, that's not going to happen here. Anyways, THEY ARE JUST OPINIONS GODAMMIT! THEY ARE NOT FACTS! As for getting another productive thing out of this conversation, that's a lost cause if there was ever one. Time to lock the thread before the catfight starts up again on behalf of this post.


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